When you move to a foreign country, you expect (if you are wise) that the food will be different from what you’re used to. For the adventurous this is a welcome change, a chance to explore new flavors and habits (though sometimes you also crave the taste of home, wherever that is for you).
It takes you by surprise, though, when even the basics are different. [more]


Milk in Italy is not very good… As butter… I ever understood why…

In england milk was much better, and it’s true it lasted longer…
Nonetheless, in England there were awful yogurts, but terrific creams (in Italy we sell just one king of fresh cream…)…
France has developed a peculiar taste for milky!creamy dessert: there are far more industrial one size desserts in French supermarkets, than anywhere I’ve been…
That’s all I suppose: I’m thinking what there was so different in Mexico, but nothing came up…
Microfiltered milk was discussed on it.hobby.cucina years ago, when it first appeared. Essentially, the milk is first skimmed somehow, than the liquid part is filtered in order to remove a highier hnumber and wider spectrum of bacteria and spores that would be removed by simple pasteurization, and finally the cream is returned to the milk and somehow /by purely mechanical means) it’s homogenized to the liquid fraction. A fourth type of milk for sale is “latte crudo”, raw milk. Itìs quite hard to find it because it’s milk not treated at all, just squeezed out of the cow. It must be drank very fast and it is often bottled on the spot. The farms that produce raw milk go through an extra set of hygiene and veterinary checks to make sure that their totally untreated milk is healthy.
My best surprise was milk (as well) while i was staying in New Zealand. The taste was great, very different from our italian small-packeted milk.
Onother big surprise was about cheese. I was used to choose between dozen of different kind of cheese when i went to an italian supermarket; in New Zealand there were only two or three kind of cheese and every one had the same taste: …cheddar…
Things haven’t changed much in the US for over 40 years in terms of milk processing. Pasteurized milk, specifically “HTST”, or High-Temperature-Short-Time, is what you typically get at the store. It’s heated to something short of the boiling point, and the aim is to reduce the pathogen count, not eliminate it.
UHT milk is also available,is labeled as such, but I’ve never seen it where I buy milk. I buy gallons at Costco that are usually dated to expire 2-3 weeks in the future.
When I worked in Cameroon and Indonesia, I loved the typical - and only practical - coffee accompaniment of sweetened condensed milk. But I only had that stuff in my coffee…could not imagine diluting and drinking it.
But since you asked about food surprises in general, I’ll throw this one in. I love buttercream frosting, and was really missing my occasional bakery treat when I worked in Medan, Sumatra. When I’d learned enough Bahasa Indonesia to venture around town by myself, I found a “Dutch” bakery with the loveliest pastries and small cakes in the display case. The piped ruffles of buttercream frosting made me salivate in anticipation. Once home, I bit into the first lovely confection and gagged. Salty! Rancid? I tried another, and another. BLECH!!! After some inquiries, I learned that chicken fat is often used locally as shortening, even in bakery goods.
I’m used to 1 gallon containers of milk from costco and acme. I can’t stand how in the supermercato or at the iper it’s impossible to find anything larger than a liter of milk. I mean Italy isn’t a third world country, isn’t their technology up to snuff with American milk producers? Is it that hard to offer milk in sealable plastic containers? sometimes Italy makes me laugh.
Timoti, a liter of milk lasts for several days already in most Italian families. About 50% of Italians are lactose intolerant (or rather lactase deficient) and even those who are not hardly drink milk at all. Children and sometimes oldre adults may have a cup of caffelatte in the morning, but most people just add a few drops of milk to their coffee or occasionally use milk for cooking (baking, making bechamel sauce for gratins, making puddings or similar stuff that hardly use more than half a liter of it). Larger than liter bottles would hardly have any market in Italy.
Jonathan grazie per spiegare il fatto del latte.
I´ve previously lived in the US, Italy, and Scotland, and while I´m not much of a cow milk drinker (I prefer soy milk), I found the milk to be good in all of them. However, I now live in Chile where the ONLY milk available is UHT milk. I say this seriously, even Starbucks which must import it´s soy milk from the US, as I have only ever seen that particular brand in the States, uses UHT milk. The one time I have had real, fresh milk in Chile was when I was visited a friend´s parent´s dairy farm. Soy milk and other cow milk substitures are also not commonly sold here, so really the only option is UHT. My solution has been to avoid drinking milk.
This article was timely for me. I just returned from spending two months with friends in India, including 10 days at Woodstock. When we lived there in the 1970s, all milk came from water buffaloes owned by village dudh-wallas who delivered it daily by mule. It had to be boiled (it was often diluted with water of unknown origin). It came daily, so we got however much we needed (I think about a liter or two a day). After boiling and cooling, the cream was skimmed for desserts or butter. Our children didn’t like to drink it straight. Now UHT milk is available and the expatriates living there use it exclusively (and they all have fridges, smaller like Italian ones). The Indian family we stayed with used a mixture of UHT milk for cereal and less expensive milk packed in plastic bags by the kilo or half kilo. The neighborhood shop that carried it only had it in the mornings; after that it would be frozen, which our friends refused to buy. This milk needed to be boiled then refrigerated and lasted a day or two. The cream went nicely on top of jam on toast!
I’ve lived in the US, in Europe, in Africa and in India, I don’t have an answer, but I echo the question:
Yes the milk in India/Africa tasted different from the milk in America/Europe, basically foul versus drinkable. But I understand the different treatments involved there. However, even in similar packaging, how is US millk treated differently to European milk so it tastes the same (to me) but seems to last for so much longer?? I really want to know.
It has been a year since my last trip to Italy and the one thing I keep looking for here in the US is yogurt similar to what I had there. My dad, 2 daughters and myself rented an apartment for a bit there and I absolutely loved running to the shop around the corner daily to purchase groceries. The yogurt was amazing…creamy,so flavorful and in these dainty little cups. I have no idea what exactly the difference is between ours and that in Italy, but it was so tasty and very much missed!